It's all good!Oh, and if you don't use wood, it ain't real BBQ. I think it is best when steamed until the block (a bread pan) has set. I'm sure all the experimenting was painful. Not that I stand too much on authenticity. The Swifty Swine Pig Races . I would think other pork "parts" could be interchanged.Posted Fri, Jan 1 2016 11:21AM, p3orion Thanks, Country, I guess I'm just going to have to just take one of those scrapple recipes and tinker until I can convert it to livermush. I wanted to make my first homemade sauce for some pork that we cooked Imu style (we are living in Hawaii for the year). The pure pepper vinegar sauce you seem to think is the only "real" NC sauce is indigenous to the eastern parts of the state, but once you get to Raleigh, there's still almost 400 miles of North Carolina to go. Bldg C . City Barbeque City Barbeque - Swine Wine Sauce. The flour dipping gives it a nice crispy, golden finish. ;) %u2764%uFE0FPosted Wed, Oct 19 2016 12:34AM, Scott %u201CYou may all go to hell and I will go to Texas for the cue'.%u201D Davy Crockett Abe Lincoln told me to believe everything you read on the internet. !Posted Tue, Jun 2 2015 12:57PM, Donna Wow. I'm sure some of you around the Sampson county area remember Old Hickory Barbecue some of the best bbq other than home cooked. I'm leery of the ketchup, not because I'm philosophically opposed to the ketchup, per se, but because I really love the flavor you typically find in that true Eastern NC BBQ. Thank you, again. I am Texan that loves her Texas BBQ, have a bit of a competitive streak & I enjoy the praise I get when my wanna-be food critic hubby gives it. Oh well I guess I'd have to buy a smoker and do it myself. the fat came from a locally made, uncured, heavily peppered bacon. 2023 national.restaurant. Sign up today at You are the amateur in not allowing your predisposed position on BBQ to be expanded. I've finally found a local source for fresh pork livers, but I have no idea how to go about making my own livermush. The son, James T King out of Greensboro sells the "Secret Sauce" on Facebook. When you take a sauce that's darn near perfect and yet change it anyway, the point isn't really to "improve" it, but to get it to where you don't have to admit you got it from someone else. This sauce is actually good for dipping grilled wings into!!! !Posted Thu, Jan 3 2013 10:06AM, p3orion This is off the barbecue topic, but since there are a lot of North Carolina carnivores in attendance, I thought this would be a good place to post this question: does anyone have a good livermush recipe?For those of you who do not know, livermush is a mixture of pork liver, pork broth, cornmeal, red pepper and other spices which is all cooked together, then allowed to cool into a brick shape. I'm not sure you should have given it to him; it's not uncommon to have a "secret" sauce, and it might have been better just to leave him wondering enviously at your barbecue mastery!Posted Wed, Sep 23 2015 9:20AM, RK Sheesh. Yummy.Posted Mon, Dec 23 2019 1:55PM, Erin I was born and raised and still live here in central NC (wake/franklin counties). Choose a sauce: No Sauce, Original Sauce, Sweet City Sauce, Brushfire Sauce, LowCo Mustard Sauce, Swine Wine Sauce $4.99 Family Pack 1 lb. Posted Sun, Feb 4 2018 5:02PM, cheri Dick T, not sure your comment is understandable with all the 'characters' insert. He was a Pemlico native. I wonder how the two will go together Memphis meets North CarolinaPosted Sat, Aug 18 2012 11:33AM, James Josh, thanks for the recipe, it turned out great! There really is no "right or wrong way" to do it. All others are commonly referred to as Lexington style, but if you ask anyone living in the east we just call it wrong.Apple Cider Vinegar, Crush Red Pepper, Black Pepper, Salt, and Sugar. As my great grandpa told my grandpa during the depression "shut up and eat!" No Texas Pete.Posted Sat, Dec 28 2013 1:06PM, Mike I'm from Wilmington NC. Homemade Barbecue. I use this as my reference when I make mine. Pulled pork, beef brisket, and rib meat, mixed together in a sweet and spicy housemade sauce and served on buttery grilled Texas toast. "Posted Sun, Apr 26 2015 12:58AM, Martin P I don't care what anybody says about this sauce. Need to get some buns for my BBQ sammiches!!! As one of the most decorated barbecue champions in the world.how to make a best bbq ribswe start withPremium Cuts & Fresh IngredientsWe take pride in using the freshest ingredients, the best quality farm raised beef, pork, chicken and turkey always prepared daily and wood smoked in-house. City Bbq. This looks like a great recipe, sans tomatoes. Posted Mon, Jun 16 2014 8:27PM, Texas Mike I've noticed some people calling the so-called Eastern recipes BBQ sauce. Bring it back to a boil and add cornmeal and cook until it is very stiff. From my original post, where the recipe called for only four ingredientscider vinegar, crushed red pepper, ground black pepper, and saltI've added only three additional. $8.65 More Cowbell Award-winning beef brisket, provolone, peppers, onions, and horseradish sauce, all piled high on Texas toast. I could drink that stuff straight from the bottle!Thanks for sharing the recipe! Thank you for the recipe!Posted Sun, Oct 16 2016 4:29PM, p3orion Chance, I agree with you about the coarsening and loss of civility in our society, but I'm not sure this thread is an example of it. All-natural chicken breast, filleted by hand and served on a bun. Was a bit hot for me so added another TBL dark brown and 2 TBL white sugar. Shred the pork with two forks and put it back into the slow cooker along with about 3/4 cup of the reserved . If a NC-style sauce is going to have hot sauce in it at all (rather than just red pepper flakes) Texas Pete the THE only one to use if you're going to be authentic.Proto, as Ashley says, there are some eastern NC sauces that contain a bit of brown sugar (at least I think that's what she's saying.) I fell in love I tried your sauce and it is good.Posted Fri, Aug 17 2018 8:50AM, Danny Griffin Lots of great ideas here but I would like to add that Eastern NC BBQ is made from the whole hog and Lexington Style BBQ is only from the pork shoulder. Texas-style smoked beef sausage in a natural pork casing, served on Texas toast with coleslaw. Start shopping online now with Instacart to get your favorite products on-demand. All the best bar b q joints in the area use some variation. Next, move on to Town Square to . Cabbage, grated (fine or coarse, your choice)2 lg. At this booth, wine drinkers can snag the Rombauer Zinfandel for $9.50. Order Bbq Grinder online from Shorties Pizza & Grinders. City Barbeque is a fast-casual restaurant chain that specializes in competition-level barbeque. I found that I like the flavor more if I bring the temp up almost to boil and then turn it off. Basically, it all depends on WHO'S uncle or granddaddy came up with which version and THAT is the deciding factor. Posted Mon, Jul 28 2014 1:42PM, Scott There is noi substitute for making your own sauce, but I have to say, being born and raised in eastern NC, the most authentic vinegar sauce in a bottle has to be Grendeddy Daves "Hawgwash" based out of Wake Forest, NC. About; Contact; All Recipes; Design by Grace + Vine Studios. I'm on my second batch in two days! I had no idea this was a local thing, but I should have guessed. So, I'm going to try the vinegary thing. But an absolute must when brewing up my homemade sauce is a top quality apple cider vinegar and I believe there is non better than Braggs. Definitely trying all the variations here. So I'd be fine with your revised sauce. Posted Wed, Oct 19 2016 10:19AM, p3orion "Tennessee, what have you done for [Texas] lately? Add onions to skillet and stir until just softened, about 2-3 minutes. Finally, the vinegar sauce really needs a nice rest to finish it off. Although the sauce is quite strong on spice and tang on its own, when added to the meat, it feels like the natural pork flavor is only enhanced rather than getting a mouth full of hot vinegar. 499. Adding hints of other things (lemon juice etc.) Thanks for posting this! Post your own recipe, and when people are still using and praising it five years later, then you can criticize Josh's.Posted Sun, Jan 11 2015 1:46PM, Protomeat I commented earlier - I also wanted to add that any of you eastern nc purists that think the known eastern nc pit masters are using simply vinegar crushed red pepper black pepper Texas Pete and salt - you're probably wrong. I am in the process of planning the menu for an upcoming event, and pulled pork sandwiches will be on the menu one day.I peruse sites all the time, and my taste buds know what they know. I am a BBQ sauce on the right meat with the right sauce kinda' grill person. On purpose or are those fingers on the wrong keys? This is why you remain in the best website to look the incredible book to have. Small Party Salad. I am from Georgia, and trust me, we have good sauces there as well. All affronts aside - I absolutely love this sauce. The recipe would be easy to scale up as needed. Leave it out, and you would have an "authentic" Eastern dip. Posted Tue, Jul 16 2013 7:30PM, charlotte stephens Can I base babyback ribs with this saucePosted Sun, Sep 29 2013 5:21PM, BBQGuru Inclusion of tomator kethcup clearly marks you as an amatuer and not to be taken seriously as a BBQ Pitmaster!Posted Thu, Oct 10 2013 6:36PM, cheri WHATEVER, BBQGuru, or so you call yourself. The reason it's so popular is because of the simplicity. Posted Mon, Dec 23 2019 1:49PM, Ryan Brilliant! I won't eat commercial souse or scrapple as they use the cheapest possible ingredients and I have seen it made in those processing facilities.Posted Sun, Dec 6 2015 12:38PM, p3orion Conclusion, I'd sure like to have your livermush recipe. He was from Tennessee & quick to mention the Tennessee boys that pitched in, back in the Alamo days. pulled pork, buns, 2 pint sides, and cornbread for 2 adults and 2 kids. When I eat NC BBQ I apply the sauce to the pork and basically just dump a bunch of TP on everything on the plate.Posted Wed, Dec 19 2012 5:00PM, p3orion Phillip, I agree that Texas Pete is great on just about anything, but you're mistaken about it being conceived of as a wing sauce. Some times I just add more cabbage and keep going.Posted Sun, Feb 5 2017 12:10AM, sue fortier I have Tyrell County, North Carolina roots from my mom and our whole family loves Eastern Style Bar BQ! . Pour the sauce into a jar or squeeze bottle and let rest in the refrigerator one day before using. However, I do think I will try what some have suggested and add just a touch of brown sugar to the sauce. City Barbeque is a restaurant chain specializing in smoked meats and barbecue-style sides. I think you got it right here except for the addition of the ketchup and the Texas Pete -- ketchup doesn't belong east of Durham at all, and you don't need the premade TP (or tabasco or even crystal, my favorite for flavor) if you steep the crushed reds in the vinegar/sugar/salt. Cabbage, grated (fine or coarse, your choice)2 lg. January, 2023 Kentucky Exposition Center, 937 Phillips Ln Louisville, KY, Louisville, Kentucky. Located within Lookout Mountain near Chattanooga, Tennessee, visitors can . Now I love collecting pulled pork recipes. I use a similar recipie for anything smoked or grilled. That's the secret of good sauce for chicken or pork. That was over 60 years ago. Write a Review, Win $500! I miss pork.Posted Tue, Aug 3 2010 11:18AM, Josh @Wilfred Reinke Thanks! The best North Carolina BEST EXAMPLE of traditional sauce is @ Stamey's, in Greensboro & elsewhere. Garner history correctly, TP was originally conceived as a buffalo wing sauce, so I find the sauce it was designed to mimic, Frank's Red Hot, to be an acceptable substitute for those horrific occasions when I have a plate of hashbrowns and scrambled eggs but am out of Texas Pete. Looks like this is the oneI'll let you know how it turns out. Smoked 6 cases of butts 8-10 lb avg ea. Use Josh's Carolina Tang regularly on pulled pork and other meats. Tabasco also has a very noticable, unique, and distinct flavor that works best with foods like red beans and rice and gumbo, which makes sense considering where it comes from. My brother is a judge on the Memphis BBQ scene and I'm using a rub he gave me for the pork. Posted Tue, Aug 3 2010 11:47PM, Dave Great pics! and am one of the most dreaded man in my country. That should round everything out and sounds about right. What a great side dish!As far as the great tomato controversy, I also am willing to add just a little to my sauce to tweak the color. Posted Mon, Feb 5 2018 2:48PM, Mark P Ketchup is not in the Eastern NC version (as in East of Raleigh) and people will hold you down and beat you if you go anywhere near a split pig with ketchup in your hand. The best place to get a good ole southern dinner, the pork was delish and so was the rest of the chicken, hush puppies and so on and so on. I like the "natural butter-type flavor" that's listed on the label as one of the ingredients, although for the life of me I can't decide exactly what "natural butter-type flavor" actually means. Just about any thin vinegar based sauce will do. I am from Virginia but lived in South Carolina and Georgia. I think of it as the cucumber and tobacco belt.Posted Mon, Nov 16 2015 4:45PM, Cheri Nice to hear someone speak with an open mind about this sauce and others. Add to Cart. You might lose some of the pepper "punch" after a while, but that much acid from the vinegar is going to prevent actual spoiling, especially if kept cold.Posted Fri, Jan 15 2016 10:47AM, tbearsghia Being from the middle section of NC The Piedmont Triad Area(Greensboro High Point Winston Salem). Of course, we slow roasted the entire hog outside for 24 hours. I have lived in NC for over 50 years and have enjoyed pork BBQ all over the state. Louisiana hot sauce or maybe Frank's hot sauce would be a better option. Barbecue products - rubs and sauces as well as other BBQ related items. It is vinegar based with .. well, here is the recipe.Lexington Slaw6 lb. Fry until fragrant then add the wine and lemon juice. Track macros, calories, and more with MyFitnessPal. We never used sauces when the meat was cooked as the flavor had so totally permeated the meat with a perfect balance of smokiness, mopping sauce, salt and pepper. Stopped often at Wilson's when traveling through that area and many years in Southport, too.We live in Maine and it is a treat to visit NC and have some good ole pulled pork sandwiches!Thanks for the entertainment while reading the comments. Even in Wilmington bbq joints (thats what we call them) the sauces are different. Grew up on Texas Pete, by T.W. In any case, "nothing succeeds like success," and it sounds like your sauce was very successful, if your husband finally begrudgingly broke down and asked for the recipe. It was mostly vinegar, very thin, but the hickory coals give pork enough flavor it doesn't need much sauce anyway. A St. Louis-area food truck is back in business with a little help from a new East St. Louis concept. Great hot sauce with a unique, natural flavor. It also gives it some red; mine is pretty dark otherwise, because I use sorgham molasses instead of brown sugar.Posted Fri, May 13 2016 9:34AM, jethro Like it all eastern bc and e. VA are the best try 50/50 w brown sugar and molasses and instead of Texas petes(sorry garners) try Panola gourmet sauce from lousianaPosted Tue, Jul 19 2016 6:58PM, Mark There was a comment on this board that there was good BBQ sauce in Georgia. They gobbled it up. I had a very expensive barbecue dinner at The Pit in Raleigh, and immediately knew that the original owner had not really disclosed his true award-winning recipe. i turn to human being also at any time i want to. Mac and Cheese Waffle Recipe. Smoked Chicken Sandwich. All-natural chicken breast, filleted by hand and served on a bun. This stuff hit the spot and even my kids enjoyed it and poured it all over just like I do. Perfect for any backyard barbecue or a special occasion like Memorial Day, Father's Day or Fourth! What a waste of a good pig..The vinegar sauce must be cooked, or you don't know what you're doing imho !! bleh! Posted Sun, Oct 20 2013 11:46PM, p3orion Good call, Brandi. Posted Fri, Aug 11 2017 8:35PM, Fran This was good,but I thought it was missing something,so I poured in about 1/4 c of dark Molasses,and, a healthy dollop and f Frenchs yellow mustard..maybe 2 tbsIt was delicious ,and,added the extra kick I was looking for!.Posted Fri, Sep 8 2017 11:05AM, Chris I have a similar sauce. Weber's Smoke - Jamie Purviance 2016-01-01 If you can grill, you can smoke! But I doubt I can find Texas Pete in Minnesota. IMHO most have never made the sauce themselves, so the absolute certainty expressed is disturbing. Jack In The Box Pina Colada Smoothie Recipe. It was excellent! If that offends your highly developed barbecue sensitivities, do what most people do and recognize that there are BOTH eastern and western North Carolina sauces.As for butter, Josh never mentioned it anyway, but some folks DO (and legitimately so) add it to a mop sauce, since modern pigs are generally much lower in fat than what were raised some decades ago. Couldn't find a recipe any where when I started making my own in early 2000's. $10.79 +. Back then it was the process, the event, and the technique that all led to a perfect barbecue. "Ketchup and brown sugar" is Texas or Kansas City. This Carolina Barbecue Sauce Recipe is a Southern vinegar based barbecue sauce made for pulled pork. Haha..Add a side of coleslaw, hushpuppies, potato salad, and baked beans!! Hence Piedmont style. Most seem to just put their high horse on and nose up, instead of having open minds! Put it away. Slaw, yes. A couple of them considered their secret ingredient for Lexington Style BBQ dip to be Bennetts Chili Sauce rather than catsup. Recipes. Maybe it is hotter out west. A Fine Swine BBQ is once again selling its smoked and pulled meats from its food truck on the east side of the river in the St. Louis metro area. Please don't. Still miss that tastePosted Mon, Jul 3 2017 4:40PM, Jay Lee Relieved you expanded your ingredient list beyond the 4 and sounded on the money, but you lost me at "ketchup." 1 Serving : 600: Black Bean Burger. I made it once simply using pork liver, corn meal, a pack of gelatin and chicken stock, sage, salt, pepper, and some red pepper seed. I love Carolina sauce as a finishing sauce for pulled pork. Sorry, Texans - But I learned to love Railroad Barbecue in Fort Worth.The barbecue in West TN had over the years turned to tomato based. Mark my words! How long would it take to burn off 20 calories of City Barbeque Swine Wine Sauce ? Pulled pork? true eastern nc sauce is just a douche recipe but it is good in its own rights. I lived in Charlotte years ago, and that sauce has still been on my taste budsthe sauce, pickles, and slaw. This is still a thin sauce, but not as thin as eastern NC style. Don't forget the slaw, which is another argument all by itself. He used ketchup! Go to Kings, Wilber's, Parker's or Scott's for real Q and learn.Posted Sun, Jan 11 2015 11:04AM, p3orion Don't look now Cahelie, but there's a lot more to North Carolina than just eastern NC, and their barbecue is as good or better. Thanks, Josh for the light-hearted intro and recipe!Posted Wed, Mar 8 2017 11:49PM, Howard I'm following the great ketchup debate with great interest. I followed the recipe that you gave and it is super yummy. . I usually add de-fatted drippings to a western (KC or STL) sauce to thin it enough for pulled pork, but it tends to be too rich and sweet. I've found a new website that I'm sure I will love as a "low-carber"!Posted Fri, Jul 10 2015 6:33PM, ann @p3orion Love liver mush also called liver cheesePosted Fri, Jul 10 2015 6:48PM, p3orion Got a recipe for it, Ann? You can certainly substitute another hot sauce, like Tabasco, but Texas Pete has a flavor and history unique to NC, which is why I used it here.Posted Sun, Aug 8 2010 10:07PM, JoshGrillsItAll Have you tried the mustard/vinegar sauces from South Carolina? The crockpot method was just not good enough last time! LowCo Barbeque Sauce. One of my favorite places was in Smithfield VA where I had family, it had a nice eastern NC style sauce. Love this on pork. 499. I remember them being out there all night with a hickory fire burning on a steel plate and they would occasionally shovel some coals into the pit.The next day when it was time to eat, oh baby! Please forgive me for the sin of buying bottled bbq sauce, but I found something called Scott's bbq sauce in Harris Teeter up here in Delaware, it worked wonderfully dressing a slow roasted shredded butt and it appears to be both Eastern NC and red in color enough to require matchup to properly emulate it. The recipe that initiated this threat is almost identical to what i use, which is what my father used and my Grandfather used Its about as traditional and authentic as it comes.Posted Mon, Jul 25 2016 5:06PM, p3orion C'mon now, Mark, there's at least one other good sauce in Georgia: mine! Melt the butter in the pan and add the garlic. :)Posted Fri, Aug 21 2015 2:58PM, BillS Great sauce! You've convinced me it's arrogance & pride. Serving Size : 1 tbsp. Put the onion and garlic in the bottom of your crockpot and pour in the wine. Grilled Salmon: Chardonnay, White Rioja, Viognier, Marsanne-Blends and even lighter-bodied Beaujolais or Pinot Noir. I hate that. I'm from NC born and raised right by lexington and this is far hotter than anything iv ever had. A peppery, vinegary sauce, perfect on pulled pork. It's even in the Cole slaw. And you can keep your coleslaw as well. As far as I'm concerned, either way can be good. While many places in the south can whip up a mean hushpuppy, Ralph's comes close to perfection, and with that fantastic BBQ to go with it, I'd highly recommend going out of your way to find them. for those of you that insist ketchup is taboo in eastern nc. This is what came out. Heck, it's not even a sauce. I really want to try itPosted Fri, May 28 2021 6:18PM, Rob Wish I had a dime for everytime I read or saw on Youtube someone mention eastern NC bbq sauce. Posted Tue, Oct 18 2016 11:25AM, p3orion Scott, I am perfectly swilling to concede that Texas beef is delicious. Ohio loves it. The Lexington Style I have tried is served up by Stameys, Short Sugars, Fuzzies and one other(Lexington, NC name escapes me). Again, it's a matter of taste, but just because you disagree doesn't mean you should fancy yourself the official arbiter of what deserves to be called a "North Carolina sauce. The sauce was thin but red so there was probably ketchup in it. Fairly sweet, tangy from the mustard rather than vinegar. To that end, they have made a tacit communal vow to oppose any tomato-based product in any "true" Eastern NC sauce.I love me some good beef brisket when I am in Texas, but I also exercise a curmudgeonly refusal to call it "barbecue", in honor to my Carolina roots. 1 750-mL bottle Sparkling Wine 1 L Cheerwine 12 oz Sierra Mist 2 Orange wedges Maraschino cherries INSTRUCTIONS Step one Add all ingredients, save for the garnishes, to a punch bowl with a large. In Atlanta it can be found in Ingles groceries. Shucks, I'm hungrier than a tick on an scrawny dog! I passed this post on to my friend @cyndiallison that lives in NC and knows here sauces. What the heck????? I can't wait to try this! I took him to Tolbert's (they started the Terlingua chili cook off) & told him it was the 2nd best chili I've ever had. Pork was a huge part of our diet. Mojo BBQ in Jacksonville, FL. Beef Brisket with 2 Sides $11.47 Choice of style. I'm just a NC born gal who was transplanted to California in her youth. The area they later moved to was mostly Scottish and English around what is now Williamsburg and Florence county. The swineapple sensation began slowly in 2015 when meat smoker Josh Bush of Laporte, Texas posted it on Facebook. Pulled pork marinated in vinegary swine wine and topped with creamy slaw. Now you can add I can't tell you exactly how its made, but I'm pretty sure that it doesn't have any ketchup in it and probably only a little sugar, if any. Back in the 50s a pig pickin was a family and community event, but even more, it reflected the lengthy history that went well back into the 1600s. I'm wanting to end up with a finished product along the lines of Neese's livermush, which even though they call it "liver pudding," is more like the livermush made by Valleydale and other manufacturers.As for SC barbecue, I agree that, historically, the mustard base was predated by a thinner mop more similar to eastern NC sauce, but you're hard-pressed to find anything NOT mustard-base in much of South Carolina now. Read the article. The western piedmont and mountain regions were settled by different people with different tastes, and some very good barbecue made there may often contain both sugars and a bit of tomato, and yet is every bit as much a "genuine North Carolina barbecue sauce" as the eastern sauces. Very thin, usually clear. Should I have cooked it longer?Posted Thu, Aug 16 2018 5:13PM, Josh @Reinamom It's supposed to be thing, about the same thickness as apple cider vinegar by itself.Posted Thu, Aug 16 2018 5:43PM, Mary The first time I had this style bbq was in a place called Magnolia NC. Some want hushpuppies, but then they argue over whether to include onion. Being from the Piedmont region just east of Charlotte, I knew the sauce wars were strong but man. Texas Pete is the best, though. (another shall! Copycat Recipe Secrets for 2023 . $10.79 +. Until now make it taste right.Posted Sat, Mar 8 2014 11:06AM, jerry v Well I live in va but born and raised in eastern nc my grandfather and relative's raised hogs and cooked them in a pit.I use his sauce and I have never in 50 yrs ever put or heard anyone put ketchup in the E N C sauce.Posted Thu, Mar 13 2014 10:51AM, Mike's Carolina BBQ Sauce Seasoning Excellent info here. Instructions. Thanks, Josh for giving me a sauce recipe that at least closely resembles one that my dad cooked up. Personally like to use just a little bit of Piedmont/Lexington style finishing sauce. The only sauce fit to eat in GA is mine and that is because i am from Raleigh NC! Then I put one half upfor oulled pork the third day after. i'm having to do everything with my non-dominant arm. "NO KETCHUP!" $14.39 +. Boy did I need a good sauce recipe. . We Also Recommend City Barbeque. Its like most home cooked stuff, dont measure, just keep the proportion of ingredients and taste/add ingredients till its to your liking. I mopped the meats every hr or so with this carolina sauce.
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